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Ray Flanagan, Leigh Davidson, Carol Perry & JJ Bruce’s Stories

Ray Flanagan, Leigh Davidson, Carol Perry & JJ Bruce’s Stories

By on Jul 1, 2013 in Dharmananda | 0 comments

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The Ivans

So the Ivans across the road – were you aware of the Italian history in this area?

Ray: Not then.

Carol: Not then, no I wasn’t aware of it then. Later. Yeah. But the Ivans were great mentors of self-sufficiency.

Ray: Yeah they were doing all sort of things.

Carol: They were killing pigs and they were making salami.

Ray: They had pheasants. Cheese and they made wine.

Carol: But we mainly learnt the cheese. Cheese was the thing we learnt from them.

Ray: Carol and, it was you and Subhana that went over wasn’t it?

Carol: I don’t know. I can’t remember.

Leigh: Were they milking their own cows?

Carol: They must have been.

Ray: Yeah I think so, yeah.

Leigh: Where did they live?

Ray: Just over where Ken Gillette is.

Leigh: That’s right, yeah. They actually had cows on that property.

Ray: You wouldn’t think so now would you?

Ray: No.

Leigh: Ken had cattle up the top.

Ray: I think they only had maybe one or two house cows, I don’t think he had a herd of them or anything.

Carol: Cause they were only making cheese for their family.

Ray: Yeah they had a cellar there where they stored the cheese and some of the other – salami probably.

Leigh: Did they live in Ken Gillete’s place or….?

Ray: No, no they, ah they lived – it wasn’t Ken’s place it was …

Leigh: Casey’s place.

Ray: Caseys.

Carol: Caseys. Casey.

So did you walk over there and say ‘Hi, will you help us make cheese?’

Carol: I don’t know how. Do you remember how we came to meet them?

Ray: Well you would have met them before I came.

Carol: I don’t know. But there weren’t many other people – you know we were the first so-called ‘alternatives’.

Ray: Mmmmm.

Carol: There were some other people renting, but yeah, so people were fairly sort of friendly at the time. They felt sorry for us [chuckles].

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